What first attracted you to single panel cartoons?
I was always interested in drawing and comedy. The comedians I gravitated towards were the cerebral one-liner types like Steven Wright, Mitch Helberg, Emo Philips. I like the simplicity and precision of that style and the fact that it’s a little more about the thought and writing behind the joke than it is about the performance of the joke. Single panel cartoons, especially at the New Yorker seem to be the cartooning equivalent of that. Very much about the idea of the joke, the literary aspect and the drawings don’t over-act.
How might stand-up comedy compare with cartooning?
Stand up is easier and harder. It’s easier in that you can develop a character and rhythm that the audience can get onboard with. A cartoon has to do all the work right there on the page one-on-one without any introduction or warm up. But standup’s harder in that you have to do a second job alongside your joke-telling job and that is reacting and controlling the room and surfing the crowd’s energy. And of course you have to stand up there and personally experience those bombing moments. Cartoonists are anonymous.
What do you do when you’re having a tough time coming up with ideas?
That’s the usual state. I always feel like I have absolutely nothing and will never think of anything funny ever again until the moment when I suddenly do. One of my favorite quotes about creativity is by Edwin Land: “Creativity is the sudden cessation of stupidity.” So when I’m in that stupid phase (which is always) I’m just trying to get the gears going with anything I can. I’ll try to come up with my own writing prompts or flip through some sort of resource material. Just to get something to react to, a jumping off point. I try to resist the temptation to let myself off the hook by telling myself “Oh I need to get up and take a walk” or “I think a cookie would really help me think better.” I try to just keep plugging away. I can’t say that I always succeed at that. Sometimes I’ll just go outside or take a hot shower or do something to get myself in the comedy frame of mind like look at old cartoons or watch ten minutes of random standup. It’s actually better for me to look at bad comedy than stuff I think is great.
When did you realize you got good at cartooning?
A couple years into doing it probably, but that was after twenty years of doing art and at least ten of doing comedy in various forms, mostly just learning about joke writing. My first hurdle in cartooning was to learn to let the picture do half the work, either the setup or the punch line or part of both. I had a tendency at first to just write odd one-liners then draw odd people saying them and that’s not really a pure cartoon. It can work, but in the best cartoons, the caption and the image are insufficient by themselves. The idea needs both. Unless it’s a wordless cartoon, which is nice when you can pull it off.
How has The New Yorker influenced your career?
It’s proved to be a good spot for my sensibilities. Even though I grew up a country boy in Texas, I came to love whatever it is you would call the New Yorkery style of humor. I was reading SJ Perleman in college. It’s not a complete match. I do some stuff that doesn’t suit the New Yorker but I’d say it’s an 85% match. I didn’t have to adapt what I do to fit in there. I was able to do my thing and develop a voice that is parallel to the magazine’s. And of course I’ve gotten better rubbing shoulders with my amazing colleagues there.
Why don’t we have more cartoon publications these days?
Good question. I have no idea. A lot of cartooning is now on the internet but that came after other magazines had already stopped running them. Maybe we’re in a golden age of web comics, unless that’s already over. The golden age of magazine cartooning was long gone by the time I started. One good place that’s still publishing a lot of cartoons is The American Bystander which is a really great independent humor magazine. It’s crowd-funded so your readers should go check that out and pitch in.
What’s the weirdest idea you’ve ever had for an illustration?
That’s interesting. I don’t think of my stuff as weird. Absurd maybe but I’m always going for laughs so to me the absurdity has to have an element of sense to it. I’ve drawn talking animals and aliens and grim reapers but those are hardly weird in the cartoon world. I once drew a pine tree driving a car that has a human-shaped air freshener hanging from the mirror. Is that weird? And a two-headed kid with glasses complaining to his mom that kids at school call him “eight eyes.” And a long-torsoed cat called a wiener cat. Maybe I do draw weird stuff.
What do you think people don’t realize about your job?
Most people think of cartooning as drawing. It’s actually way more about the thinking and the writing than it is about the art. The drawing part is just the end zone dance.
Why do you think cartoonists become cartoonists?
Probably lots of reasons. For me, I wanted to do comedy in some form or another and I have a lot more confidence in my drawing ability than my personality or performance skills. Generally I think cartoonists like doing something that’s entirely within their control. It’s very pure and personal. They like to perfect something before presenting it to others. They secretly want people to think they’re brilliant and they want to make hundreds of dollars a year.